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tristatemkV · 08-27-2008, 04:54 PM

http://tinyurl.com/569zjl

$129.95

Wondering where your boost went? Power delivery not as smooth as it used to be? Most likely your engine's diverter valve is to blame.

What is a diverter valve? A diverter valve (DV) is a pathway for boost when it is not being used by your engine. Whenever the throttle body is closed, like during shifts or deceleration, the boost needs an escape route. If the boost cannot escape during these times, it can back up and cause shocks to the turbo. These shocks will stall the turbo, slowing boost production upon re-acceleration (turbo lag). Even worse, these shocks can cause damage to the turbo. The diverter valve's job is to open when the throttle body is closing or closed, and reroute the boost to the low pressure intake side of the turbo, where it can do no harm.

Years ago, we became the US distributor for Bailey Motorsport's alloy diverter valve which became the gold standard of replacement DVs for numerous VW, Audi, and Porsche models.

However, the current 2.0T models from VW and Audi use a much more complex diverter valve, and the Bailey Motorsport unit is not a suitable or practical replacement.

Despite the more complex OEM design, the VW/Audi DV fails in the same manner as the older design, which results in serious loss of boost and power.

During development of 750+ hp turbo kits for Porsche models, we came across a Porsche factory DV that indeed can go the distance. We designed a few companion parts, and this DV in essence is now a direct replacement for the problematic VW/Audi unit. No permanent modifications are required for install and our Electronic DV Simulator plugs right into the factory wiring harness to eliminate any fault codes from tripping your Check Engine Light.

Simple and elegant in its design, yet made for OEM applications almost triple the power output of the stock 2.0T engine, this DV is a serious performer and has been extensively track, street, and dyno tested on multiple cars in multiple climates.

Install of the A.W.E. Performance DV is a simple half hour install procedure and it is the most economical solution on the market for the chronic DV issue.

SA-GTI · 08-28-2008, 09:55 AM

is it a Full replacement ie: Bolt on or is it a Rebuild kit?
What are the other parts included there for?

*dpham00* · 08-28-2008, 11:09 AM

this is a mechanical solution. the stock dv is electromechanical. so this dv operates similar to standard dv's, using vacuum operation only.

BlackRabbit · 08-28-2008, 11:24 AM

lame.... bsh dv kit ftw

Housetek · 08-31-2008, 07:53 PM

any 1 have this? b/c i live 20 mins away from AWE tuning and kinda interested in getting this.

dorn101 · 09-09-2008, 09:45 PM

Anyone try this yet? Thoughts?

pitbull592 · 09-09-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Housetek

any 1 have this? b/c i live 20 mins away from AWE tuning and kinda interested in getting this.

I know it's good!

dorn101 · 09-09-2008, 10:12 PM

Nice, I'm considering getting one. Wish they had some specials going on down at h2o, I'd most likely buy it there. I like the BSH kit, but $130s not bad for this.

leo delarge · 09-09-2008, 10:43 PM

seems interesting, AWE always has quality products so i cant say anything bad about this

rocky5 · 09-09-2008, 10:44 PM

I'm interested in seeing numbers....kinda like the guy on here that did testing of the forge dv vs the stock version "g". The stock had higher numbers, but the forge will last longer and take more abuse.

I like the price of this though.

rysskii3 · 09-09-2008, 11:05 PM

electromechanical (stock for example) is much better. it will operate using the signals sent from ecu.
whats faster? boost or signals sent from ecu via electrical wires?

KJIV · 09-10-2008, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rysskii3

electromechanical (stock for example) is much better. it will operate using the signals sent from ecu.
whats faster? boost or signals sent from ecu via electrical wires?

That's the debate, and most cars use a mechanical valve. Why would electromechanical be much better? The goal is simply to prevent compressor surge, so whether it opens mechanically or electromechanically the job gets done. I would love to see the millisecond differences.

What also makes me wonder is that I hear my stock dv that's electronically controlled flutter under partial throttle...

vlm7 · 09-10-2008, 02:56 PM

I don't have any empirical evidence, but it's been doing its job for the last week w/ no CEL.

d.C · 09-10-2008, 04:09 PM

subscribed.

scheides · 09-10-2008, 06:26 PM

Looks like it will still be prone to diaphram failure, just like the OEM DV. Go with the BSH kit or DIY with an ATP block-off and an off-the-shelf DV from audi or mitsubishi. I did mine for $40, so no this is not THE most economical solution out there ;)

Genome · 09-10-2008, 07:04 PM

subscribed!

i wanna see how this plays out

Housetek · 09-10-2008, 08:39 PM

any word on how it sounds?

norsairius · 09-10-2008, 08:47 PM

subscribed!

vlm7 · 09-10-2008, 09:41 PM

The diaphragm may fail, but it is much thicker compared to stock. I wish I could go for the BSH relocation, but the A3 doesn't have the noise pipe, etc.

pitbull592 · 09-10-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristatemkV

During development of 750+ hp turbo kits for Porsche models, we came across a Porsche factory DV that indeed can go the distance. We designed a few companion parts, and this DV in essence is now a direct replacement for the problematic VW/Audi unit

I doubt it will fail even at stage 3

d.C · 09-11-2008, 03:03 AM

is there a diy out there? i think this along with the awe boost gauge should be a good complement to revo stage 1

vlm7 · 09-11-2008, 09:39 AM

Check out their website - it has a .pdf for the install instructions... very straightforward.

08-27-2008, 04:54 PM	#1
tristatemkV FIA World Rally Car Champion Drives: 07 GTI Manual Join Date: May 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 536	New DV solution from AWE? http://tinyurl.com/569zjl $129.95 Wondering where your boost went? Power delivery not as smooth as it used to be? Most likely your engine's diverter valve is to blame. What is a diverter valve? A diverter valve (DV) is a pathway for boost when it is not being used by your engine. Whenever the throttle body is closed, like during shifts or deceleration, the boost needs an escape route. If the boost cannot escape during these times, it can back up and cause shocks to the turbo. These shocks will stall the turbo, slowing boost production upon re-acceleration (turbo lag). Even worse, these shocks can cause damage to the turbo. The diverter valve's job is to open when the throttle body is closing or closed, and reroute the boost to the low pressure intake side of the turbo, where it can do no harm. Years ago, we became the US distributor for Bailey Motorsport's alloy diverter valve which became the gold standard of replacement DVs for numerous VW, Audi, and Porsche models. However, the current 2.0T models from VW and Audi use a much more complex diverter valve, and the Bailey Motorsport unit is not a suitable or practical replacement. Despite the more complex OEM design, the VW/Audi DV fails in the same manner as the older design, which results in serious loss of boost and power. During development of 750+ hp turbo kits for Porsche models, we came across a Porsche factory DV that indeed can go the distance. We designed a few companion parts, and this DV in essence is now a direct replacement for the problematic VW/Audi unit. No permanent modifications are required for install and our Electronic DV Simulator plugs right into the factory wiring harness to eliminate any fault codes from tripping your Check Engine Light. Simple and elegant in its design, yet made for OEM applications almost triple the power output of the stock 2.0T engine, this DV is a serious performer and has been extensively track, street, and dyno tested on multiple cars in multiple climates. Install of the A.W.E. Performance DV is a simple half hour install procedure and it is the most economical solution on the market for the chronic DV issue.

08-28-2008, 11:09 AM	#3
dpham00 Modérateur Emeritus Drives: 00 Passat 2.0T;07 GTI 2.0T FSI Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 11,660 *View dpham00's Garage*	this is a mechanical solution. the stock dv is electromechanical. so this dv operates similar to standard dv's, using vacuum operation only. __________________ Hex-USB+Can Vag-Com! MKV MKV Fuses 2.0T Issues Chip FAQ MKV Vag-Com Guide Vag-com Logging and Graphing

08-28-2008, 11:24 AM	#4
BlackRabbit Ünpimp'd Drives: 2007 Magic GTI Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 212	lame.... bsh dv kit ftw __________________ 2007 Black Magic GTI

09-09-2008, 09:45 PM	#6
dorn101 Jai Guru Deva Om Drives: '07 GTI 6spd United Gray Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Amish Country, PA Posts: 1,977 View dorn101's Garage	Anyone try this yet? Thoughts? __________________ It's good to be norml.

09-09-2008, 10:12 PM	#8
dorn101 Jai Guru Deva Om Drives: '07 GTI 6spd United Gray Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Amish Country, PA Posts: 1,977 View dorn101's Garage	Nice, I'm considering getting one. Wish they had some specials going on down at h2o, I'd most likely buy it there. I like the BSH kit, but $130s not bad for this. __________________ It's good to be norml.

08-28-2008, 09:55 AM	#2
SA-GTI FIA World Rally Car Newbie Drives: Golf 5 GTi TR 4dr 6mt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SA Posts: 425	is it a Full replacement ie: Bolt on or is it a Rebuild kit? What are the other parts included there for?

08-31-2008, 07:53 PM	#5
Housetek Touring Car Newbie Drives: 2008 MK5 Gti Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philladelphia Posts: 192	any 1 have this? b/c i live 20 mins away from AWE tuning and kinda interested in getting this.

09-09-2008, 10:43 PM	#9
leo delarge I stay high Drives: United Grey GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 407/321 Posts: 1,148 View leo delarge's Garage	seems interesting, AWE always has quality products so i cant say anything bad about this __________________ $15 shipped PM me THREE.8.WERKS

09-09-2008, 10:44 PM	#10
rocky5 toys r us KID! Drives: Candy White 07 GTI Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 73	I'm interested in seeing numbers....kinda like the guy on here that did testing of the forge dv vs the stock version "g". The stock had higher numbers, but the forge will last longer and take more abuse. I like the price of this though. __________________ Revo Stage 1, Clear Side Markers, K&N drop-in filter, Eurojet PCV Fix

09-10-2008, 02:56 PM	#13
vlm7 Go Kart Champion Drives: A3 2.0T Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 37	I don't have any empirical evidence, but it's been doing its job for the last week w/ no CEL.

09-10-2008, 04:09 PM	#14
d.C DJ Drives: '07 Golf V GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Richmond, BC Posts: 1,140 View d.C's Garage	subscribed.

09-10-2008, 06:26 PM	#15
scheides Autocross Champion Drives: 2005 Evo VIII & 2006 VW GLI Join Date: May 2008 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 110	Looks like it will still be prone to diaphram failure, just like the OEM DV. Go with the BSH kit or DIY with an ATP block-off and an off-the-shelf DV from audi or mitsubishi. I did mine for $40, so no this is not THE most economical solution out there ;)

09-10-2008, 07:04 PM	#16
Genome Hippest Teacher. Ever. Drives: 2008 CW 4-Door. GTI. 6Spd. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal-Irvine/Palos Verdes Estates Posts: 7,070	subscribed! i wanna see how this plays out __________________ Sooner or later it all comes crashing down.

09-10-2008, 08:39 PM	#17
Housetek Touring Car Newbie Drives: 2008 MK5 Gti Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philladelphia Posts: 192	any word on how it sounds?

09-10-2008, 08:47 PM	#18
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09-10-2008, 09:41 PM	#19
vlm7 Go Kart Champion Drives: A3 2.0T Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 37	The diaphragm may fail, but it is much thicker compared to stock. I wish I could go for the BSH relocation, but the A3 doesn't have the noise pipe, etc.

09-11-2008, 03:03 AM	#21
d.C DJ Drives: '07 Golf V GTI Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Richmond, BC Posts: 1,140 View d.C's Garage	is there a diy out there? i think this along with the awe boost gauge should be a good complement to revo stage 1

09-11-2008, 09:39 AM	#22
vlm7 Go Kart Champion Drives: A3 2.0T Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 37	Check out their website - it has a .pdf for the install instructions... very straightforward.